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	<title>Comments on: Free web statistics? Don&#8217;t count on it.</title>
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		<title>By: Volunteer church webmaster</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-5521</link>
		<dc:creator>Volunteer church webmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gambling pop-ups and other negative advertisers on a church website! Disappointing business tactics, indeed!

Try Statcounter.com -- They&#039;re a reliable resource! And they provide better information, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gambling pop-ups and other negative advertisers on a church website! Disappointing business tactics, indeed!</p>
<p>Try Statcounter.com &#8212; They&#8217;re a reliable resource! And they provide better information, too!</p>
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		<title>By: 3dogs</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-5414</link>
		<dc:creator>3dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gets worse. Now Webstats4U install spyware.....
and porn popups on childrens sites....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets worse. Now Webstats4U install spyware&#8230;..<br />
and porn popups on childrens sites&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenReaper</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-5133</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenReaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah! Of course, I didn&#039;t see them because I use Firefox, but I&#039;m sure my visitors did! I&#039;m switching to Google Analytics - they provide far better stats anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah! Of course, I didn&#8217;t see them because I use Firefox, but I&#8217;m sure my visitors did! I&#8217;m switching to Google Analytics &#8211; they provide far better stats anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-2249</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting service, Logdy -- and possibly the shortest Terms of Service agreement I&#039;ve ever seen. Do you folks have a business model, or is this something you&#039;re doing just because it&#039;s good for the web?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting service, Logdy &#8212; and possibly the shortest Terms of Service agreement I&#8217;ve ever seen. Do you folks have a business model, or is this something you&#8217;re doing just because it&#8217;s good for the web?</p>
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		<title>By: Logdy</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-2245</link>
		<dc:creator>Logdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just find a good website statistics service. It is easy to find :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just find a good website statistics service. It is easy to find :)</p>
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		<title>By: MuslimWays</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-2185</link>
		<dc:creator>MuslimWays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>same as &quot;micheailin&quot; I got the same problem, I kept getting iLead pop-up which was very unsuitable for my website, specially the images they had on it.

I couldn&#039;t find out what code made the pop-up to appear, but then realised it was cos of webstats4u.

I am looking forward to remove the stats from them, never again I am using their &quot;free&quot; stats counter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>same as &#8220;micheailin&#8221; I got the same problem, I kept getting iLead pop-up which was very unsuitable for my website, specially the images they had on it.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find out what code made the pop-up to appear, but then realised it was cos of webstats4u.</p>
<p>I am looking forward to remove the stats from them, never again I am using their &#8220;free&#8221; stats counter.</p>
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		<title>By: micheailin</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>micheailin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;experience&#039; even!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;experience&#8217; even!</p>
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		<title>By: micheailin</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1947</link>
		<dc:creator>micheailin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Hey! Thanks for confirming my exporience
on 2 of my SAOIRSE32 websites today. I was getting these really malicious &#039;iLead&#039; pop-ups that took over. I took the Webstats4u off, and they disappeared. Interestingly enough, so far the Livejournal site I use Webstats on for each post does not seem to allow the ad through although it still gives me the stats. I hated when the Nedstats changed. They went from a good experience to garbage and now pure shite. 
Cheers,
micheailin
http://fenian32.tk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Hey! Thanks for confirming my exporience<br />
on 2 of my SAOIRSE32 websites today. I was getting these really malicious &#8216;iLead&#8217; pop-ups that took over. I took the Webstats4u off, and they disappeared. Interestingly enough, so far the Livejournal site I use Webstats on for each post does not seem to allow the ad through although it still gives me the stats. I hated when the Nedstats changed. They went from a good experience to garbage and now pure shite.<br />
Cheers,<br />
micheailin<br />
<a href="http://fenian32.tk" rel="nofollow">http://fenian32.tk</a></p>
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		<title>By: tetley tee &#187; I care about my readers!</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1612</link>
		<dc:creator>tetley tee &#187; I care about my readers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So during my break from studying I saw a message rom Iola asking me why my page had pop-ups. I was confused as hell, because I didn&#8217;t sign on for any pop-ups. I did some major hunting (wrongly accusing Dreamhost) only to find that webstats4U is sticking pop-ups into my site!  I apologize to everyone for this (I noticed a few pop-ups recently too, but didn&#8217;t really think anything of it), but since Nedstats, the original service, was taken over by webstats4u, they&#8217;ve been slowly throwing pop-ups in every now and then. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So during my break from studying I saw a message rom Iola asking me why my page had pop-ups. I was confused as hell, because I didn&#8217;t sign on for any pop-ups. I did some major hunting (wrongly accusing Dreamhost) only to find that webstats4U is sticking pop-ups into my site!  I apologize to everyone for this (I noticed a few pop-ups recently too, but didn&#8217;t really think anything of it), but since Nedstats, the original service, was taken over by webstats4u, they&#8217;ve been slowly throwing pop-ups in every now and then. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1585</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!  I, too, received emails from some of my users about pop ups on my site, but couldn&#039;t figure out where they were coming from.  I noticed the change in name for Needstat when investigating the origin of these ads, and read as much as a I could on their site, trying to determine if they were the cause.  Much like one of the posts above I didn&#039;t suspect needstat because I have been using them for so long. It wasn&#039;t until I started searching and found this page that I got the answer. Guess I didn&#039;t read the details well enough.  So it&#039;s time to take the Needstat/Webstats4u code off the site and rely on Statcounter for now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!  I, too, received emails from some of my users about pop ups on my site, but couldn&#8217;t figure out where they were coming from.  I noticed the change in name for Needstat when investigating the origin of these ads, and read as much as a I could on their site, trying to determine if they were the cause.  Much like one of the posts above I didn&#8217;t suspect needstat because I have been using them for so long. It wasn&#8217;t until I started searching and found this page that I got the answer. Guess I didn&#8217;t read the details well enough.  So it&#8217;s time to take the Needstat/Webstats4u code off the site and rely on Statcounter for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Obels.net Medical Weblog &#9733;&#9733;&#9733;</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1571</link>
		<dc:creator>Obels.net Medical Weblog &#9733;&#9733;&#9733;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;unwanted popup ads.&lt;/strong&gt;

I have to apologize to my readers. Because of the use of a free statistic counter on my site, my visitors were harassed with popup ads. This company, Webstats4U, suddenly attached popup ads to the statistic counter. I removed the script. Read further: ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>unwanted popup ads.</strong></p>
<p>I have to apologize to my readers. Because of the use of a free statistic counter on my site, my visitors were harassed with popup ads. This company, Webstats4U, suddenly attached popup ads to the statistic counter. I removed the script. Read further: &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1564</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, and thanks!
I deleted everything on my website, but after uploading all the pages again, the popups were still there... Now I&#039;ll do it again, but without the counter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, and thanks!<br />
I deleted everything on my website, but after uploading all the pages again, the popups were still there&#8230; Now I&#8217;ll do it again, but without the counter</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Cottingham &#187; Who&#8217;s that knocking on my door? Ask Google.</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1543</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Cottingham &#187; Who&#8217;s that knocking on my door? Ask Google.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Many web hosts offer bundled packages that range from lousy to okay to pretty good, but analysis that offers depth without demanding geekiness is hard to come by. The free services are either limited (StatCounter only holds on to the last 100 page views) or annoying (Webstats4U inflicts popup windows on your visitors &#8212; something they don&#8217;t really make clear when you sign up). And pay services like Mint and the free services&#8217; premium offerings are, well, pay services. (Mint has an enormous, rabidly enthusiastic following, by the way, and if you&#8217;re willing to spring for stats, check them out.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many web hosts offer bundled packages that range from lousy to okay to pretty good, but analysis that offers depth without demanding geekiness is hard to come by. The free services are either limited (StatCounter only holds on to the last 100 page views) or annoying (Webstats4U inflicts popup windows on your visitors &#8212; something they don&#8217;t really make clear when you sign up). And pay services like Mint and the free services&#8217; premium offerings are, well, pay services. (Mint has an enormous, rabidly enthusiastic following, by the way, and if you&#8217;re willing to spring for stats, check them out.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Cottingham &#187; If I could blog to the animals&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1496</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Cottingham &#187; If I could blog to the animals&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How cool is this? I&#8217;ve been linked to by a Gentoo Penguin webcam blog out of Antarctica! (Apparently they&#8217;d been having popup issues thanks to the Webstats4U fiasco reported on here a month ago.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How cool is this? I&#8217;ve been linked to by a Gentoo Penguin webcam blog out of Antarctica! (Apparently they&#8217;d been having popup issues thanks to the Webstats4U fiasco reported on here a month ago.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: popkulturjunkie.de &#187; counterkram.</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1495</link>
		<dc:creator>popkulturjunkie.de &#187; counterkram.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alle, die den ach so bÃ¶sen Blogcounter von ihrer Seite geschmissen haben und durch den ehemaligen nedstatbasic- und jetzigen webstats4u-Counter ersetzt haben, sollten mal hier und hier lesen. Webstats4u sendet nÃ¤mlich heimlich und per AGB abgesichert Popup-Werbung auf Eure Blogs. UnschÃ¶n, das. Da lob ich mir doch den Blogounter. Der macht sowas nÃ¤mlich nicht. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alle, die den ach so bÃ¶sen Blogcounter von ihrer Seite geschmissen haben und durch den ehemaligen nedstatbasic- und jetzigen webstats4u-Counter ersetzt haben, sollten mal hier und hier lesen. Webstats4u sendet nÃ¤mlich heimlich und per AGB abgesichert Popup-Werbung auf Eure Blogs. UnschÃ¶n, das. Da lob ich mir doch den Blogounter. Der macht sowas nÃ¤mlich nicht. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1420</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m delighted I could help, Rob.  If I&#039;ve stopped even one popup window, I consider that a day well-spent. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m delighted I could help, Rob.  If I&#8217;ve stopped even one popup window, I consider that a day well-spent. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Lewis</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1413</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rob,
        thank you, your page has solved a major problem. Like many people I could not understand why I started to get pop up adverts when I visited my own site. I spent hours trying to see if I had been infected and running scans. I never suspected the NEDSTAT counter,as I have had it for years. Now, thanks to your page, I am going through all the 79 counters on my site and taking them off. I refuse to have adverts appear to my visitors.
Thanks again,
Rob Lewis-Editor of THE LAUREL &amp; HARDY MAGAZINE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rob,<br />
        thank you, your page has solved a major problem. Like many people I could not understand why I started to get pop up adverts when I visited my own site. I spent hours trying to see if I had been infected and running scans. I never suspected the NEDSTAT counter,as I have had it for years. Now, thanks to your page, I am going through all the 79 counters on my site and taking them off. I refuse to have adverts appear to my visitors.<br />
Thanks again,<br />
Rob Lewis-Editor of THE LAUREL &amp; HARDY MAGAZINE.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical-C Blog</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1369</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical-C Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 01:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;F U Webstats4U&lt;/strong&gt;

First of all, I would like to thank the people who emailed me or left me comments alerting me that they were receiving pop-up ads while visiting this blog. I use Firefox which has an excellent built-in pop-up blocker so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>F U Webstats4U</strong></p>
<p>First of all, I would like to thank the people who emailed me or left me comments alerting me that they were receiving pop-up ads while visiting this blog. I use Firefox which has an excellent built-in pop-up blocker so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ANJAZWEBPLACE &#187; Webstats for free is not is so free anymore!!</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>ANJAZWEBPLACE &#187; Webstats for free is not is so free anymore!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jeriko.one - the everyday madness</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1332</link>
		<dc:creator>jeriko.one - the everyday madness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gefunden bei Rob Cottingham communications [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vida Vacia 4.1 &#187; Estadisticas y pop-ups</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1328</link>
		<dc:creator>Vida Vacia 4.1 &#187; Estadisticas y pop-ups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ahora resulta que Webstats4u -el sitio antes conocido como Nedstat- incluir?° pop-ups en los sitios que audite, como forma de financiar sus desarrollos. ¬øQu?© esperan para pasarse a StatCounter? Hay una larga cadena de bloggers que se quejan, y que pueden ser seguidos mediante Technorati. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ahora resulta que Webstats4u -el sitio antes conocido como Nedstat- incluir?° pop-ups en los sitios que audite, como forma de financiar sus desarrollos. ¬øQu?© esperan para pasarse a StatCounter? Hay una larga cadena de bloggers que se quejan, y que pueden ser seguidos mediante Technorati. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weblog Tools Collection &#187; Free web statistics? Do not count on it!</title>
		<link>http://robcottingham.ca/2005/09/free-web-statistics-dont-count-on-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Weblog Tools Collection &#187; Free web statistics? Do not count on it!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Free web statistics? Do not count on it! Ouch! Removed Webstats4u. Do you still get popups?   &#160; [...]</description>
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